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Kate/Gibbs dani_g:These vids can express their relationship without words Majky87' Kate/Gibbs video NCISmelanie Kate/Gibbs video Reason number one I ship these characters: The staring. There have been hundreds of intense looks between Gibbs and Kate. That's what DPB did with Harm and Mac for years - lots of stares.The ones who see Gibbs and Kate like a couple are the ones who realize attraction doesn't ask to see your ID. I just remember the chemistry I saw in 'Yankee White' and I loved it! Yes, he is older than Kate,but for some reason that doesn't bug me at all.I don't have problem with older man/younger woman love relationship.Kate definitely doesn't see Gibbs like her father.Remember 1.23: Reveille ?"BASSAM. Who's Gibbs? Who is Gibbs?KATE. My boyfriend."Not to mention the Yankee White-because of the tension between Gibbs and Kate DPB added the the redhead, who pick up Gibbs form time to time, and the all "Emergency blow" thing,where Kate falls into Gibbs arms.:). Personally, I can't imagine working for or with Gibbs and not having a huge crush on him, so it would be natural if Kate would. Based on their interaction in "Yankee White", I don't think Gibbs feelings toward Kate were anything close to fatherly. After all, she's definitely a strong-willed woman,something I imagine all his women have been.I think Kate and Gibbs saw something in each other when they first met on Air Force One. After he hired her, her admiration for him grew. It's clear she tried to impress him with her investigative skills . I can easily believe that Kate feels an attraction to Gibbs (like who wouldn't?). He may feel something, too, but I think he'd be better at hiding - or ignoring - it. She would try to hide it, but find herself staring, or sketching, or something. How Gibbs would handle Kate's attraction - I think probably the same way Grissom in CSI handle's Sara's fancy for him - trying to pretend its not there, and that he doesn't feel the same due to some silly belief that work is more important. Before Kate died, I saw a lot of subtext with her and Gibbs. I could see a women like Kate catching Gibbs and keeping him. And Kate can learn from him through not only the job, but life. They make each other 'whole' in some way.In S1 and especially 1.01 "YW" when she wasn’t his agent, Gibbs was definitely flirting. There was something between them since they first met on Air Force One, a spark that even DPB tried to diffuse (using the mysterious redhead-DPB ,after 1.01"YW" ,said,that he loved the tension between Gibbs and Kate, but he didn't want Unresolved Sexual Tension on this show, that's why he tried to diffuse the spark between them - he added the mysterious red head to prevent the tension between Kate and Gibbs). Kate is perfect for Gibbs because she breaks the mold. I think that she's fascinated by him and I think that he's equally fascinated by her. Who else could call Gibbs a 'gloomy Gus' and get away with it? Who could spill his coffee/"Sub Rosa"/ and still get what she wants?This ship had the potential to be perfect, but it didn't happen. I think neither of them wanted to give into their hearts. Both Kate and Gibbs were understandably wary of coworker relationships Gibbs had his problems with Jen/his partner and ex-lover/; Kate had her thing with Major Kerry/her college and lover/. Neither was about to make a move, especially within only two years of knowing one another. Gibbs' true feelings about Kate are known only to him and Kate's caricature of Gibbs remains a mystery. Kate respected Gibbs more than she did Tony, though, and possibly he respected her more than Tony did. I think that Gibbs and Kate's scenes and interaction are much more subtle in comparison in S1 than any of the couples on the show and that only proves they had feelings - you know the proverb about the deep water and how unpredictable it can be.:) I think that Gibbs after three divorces would know when to compromise and his personality is more similar to Kate's than anyone of the team and Gibbs and Kate are more serious although they both have a softer side. I noticed during the first season and it has continued into the second season that despite the fact Gibbs has come across as a bit more stern and harsh with Kate opposed to the other characters that he probably doesn't act this way for no reason. I've also noticed that both Sasha and Mark have been asked in different interviews about a possible Gibbs/Kate romance. I believe that Gibbs liked Kate a lot"- remember his amused tolerance of her faults and ignorance of all things naval, that feeling that no matter what, he would always make sure she was OK , the sense that he is torn between professional respect and a chivalrous, old fashioned need to take care of her as well as the occasional urge to throttle her. Maybe he had feelings for her, but can't/won't recognize them because she is so different from his usual kind of woman. Without Kate in the picture, I fear we will never again see that side of Gibbs that her character brought out. Sorgiña: Now we'll never know of course, but it might have been interesting to see what might have happened had Jen turned up when Kate was still alive or even Mann. Reckon there could have been some very interesting moments there. But now it's too late for that, who knows there might have been some real cat-fights here. NCISislove: "...there might have been some real cat-fights here." If that happens, I want to be there-this is not something I would miss. Like Tony said once in a similar case "I want to look away, but I can't":) Ncis_Fanatic: I don't think it could really happen....It's just something that would make more sense between Tony and Kate and that I would support but like Sorgiña said we'll never know! NCISislove: Ncis_Fanatic,my observations of life shows that ,like dani_g said, the quiet waters are deeper than we expect.:)Tony and Kate talk too much so I don't think anything was meant to happen - too much talking,no action, although the writers like playing with this aspect of the show. dani_g:'...my observations of life shows that ,like dani_g said, the quiet waters are deeper than we expect.:)' I can't believe it-just read the same reply/well, there it was “You know that saying, still waters run deep” , but I hadn't a clue the proverb soundws that way , since English is not my mother language:D/ in one of the best G/K /Buffy the Vampire Slayer Crossover /NCIS/Buffy the Vampire Slayer fic / -I'm so glad that I'm not the only one, who thinks that way!

Kate/Gibbs

dani_g:These vids can express their relationship without words
Majky87' Kate/Gibbs video
NCISmelanie Kate/Gibbs video
Reason number one I ship these characters: The staring. There have been hundreds of intense looks between Gibbs and Kate. That's what DPB did with Harm and Mac for years - lots of stares.The ones who see Gibbs and Kate like a couple are the ones who realize attraction doesn't ask to see your ID. I just remember the chemistry I saw in 'Yankee White' and I loved it! Yes, he is older than Kate,but for some reason that doesn't bug me at all.I don't have problem with older man/younger woman love relationship.Kate definitely doesn't see Gibbs like her father.Remember 1.23: Reveille ?"BASSAM. Who's Gibbs? Who is Gibbs?KATE. My boyfriend."Not to mention the Yankee White-because of the tension between Gibbs and Kate DPB added the the redhead, who pick up Gibbs form time to time, and the all "Emergency blow" thing,where Kate falls into Gibbs arms.:). Personally, I can't imagine working for or with Gibbs and not having a huge crush on him, so it would be natural if Kate would. Based on their interaction in "Yankee White", I don't think Gibbs feelings toward Kate were anything close to fatherly. After all, she's definitely a strong-willed woman,something I imagine all his women have been.I think Kate and Gibbs saw something in each other when they first met on Air Force One. After he hired her, her admiration for him grew. It's clear she tried to impress him with her investigative skills . I can easily believe that Kate feels an attraction to Gibbs (like who wouldn't?). He may feel something, too, but I think he'd be better at hiding - or ignoring - it. She would try to hide it, but find herself staring, or sketching, or something. How Gibbs would handle Kate's attraction - I think probably the same way Grissom in CSI handle's Sara's fancy for him - trying to pretend its not there, and that he doesn't feel the same due to some silly belief that work is more important.

Before Kate died, I saw a lot of subtext with her and Gibbs. I could see a women like Kate catching Gibbs and keeping him. And Kate can learn from him through not only the job, but life. They make each other 'whole' in some way.In S1 and especially 1.01 "YW" when she wasn’t his agent, Gibbs was definitely flirting. There was something between them since they first met on Air Force One, a spark that even DPB tried to diffuse (using the mysterious redhead-DPB ,after 1.01"YW" ,said,that he loved the tension between Gibbs and Kate, but he didn't want Unresolved Sexual Tension on this show, that's why he tried to diffuse the spark between them - he added the mysterious red head to prevent the tension between Kate and Gibbs). Kate is perfect for Gibbs because she breaks the mold. I think that she's fascinated by him and I think that he's equally fascinated by her. Who else could call Gibbs a 'gloomy Gus' and get away with it? Who could spill his coffee/"Sub Rosa"/ and still get what she wants?This ship had the potential to be perfect, but it didn't happen. I think neither of them wanted to give into their hearts.

Both Kate and Gibbs were understandably wary of coworker relationships Gibbs had his problems with Jen/his partner and ex-lover/; Kate had her thing with Major Kerry/her college and lover/. Neither was about to make a move, especially within only two years of knowing one another. Gibbs' true feelings about Kate are known only to him and Kate's caricature of Gibbs remains a mystery. Kate respected Gibbs more than she did Tony, though, and possibly he respected her more than Tony did. I think that Gibbs and Kate's scenes and interaction are much more subtle in comparison in S1 than any of the couples on the show and that only proves they had feelings - you know the proverb about the deep water and how unpredictable it can be.:)

I think that Gibbs after three divorces would know when to compromise and his personality is more similar to Kate's than anyone of the team and Gibbs and Kate are more serious although they both have a softer side. I noticed during the first season and it has continued into the second season that despite the fact Gibbs has come across as a bit more stern and harsh with Kate opposed to the other characters that he probably doesn't act this way for no reason. I've also noticed that both Sasha and Mark have been asked in different interviews about a possible Gibbs/Kate romance.

I believe that Gibbs liked Kate a lot"- remember his amused tolerance of her faults and ignorance of all things naval, that feeling that no matter what, he would always make sure she was OK , the sense that he is torn between professional respect and a chivalrous, old fashioned need to take care of her as well as the occasional urge to throttle her. Maybe he had feelings for her, but can't/won't recognize them because she is so different from his usual kind of woman. Without Kate in the picture, I fear we will never again see that side of Gibbs that her character brought out.

Sorgiña: Now we'll never know of course, but it might have been interesting to see what might have happened had Jen turned up when Kate was still alive or even Mann. Reckon there could have been some very interesting moments there. But now it's too late for that, who knows there might have been some real cat-fights here.

NCISislove: "...there might have been some real cat-fights here." If that happens, I want to be there-this is not something I would miss. Like Tony said once in a similar case "I want to look away, but I can't":)

Ncis_Fanatic: I don't think it could really happen....It's just something that would make more sense between Tony and Kate and that I would support but like Sorgiña said we'll never know!

NCISislove: Ncis_Fanatic,my observations of life shows that ,like dani_g said, the quiet waters are deeper than we expect.:)Tony and Kate talk too much so I don't think anything was meant to happen - too much talking,no action, although the writers like playing with this aspect of the show.

dani_g:'...my observations of life shows that ,like dani_g said, the quiet waters are deeper than we expect.:)'
I can't believe it-just read the same reply/well, there it was “You know that saying, still waters run deep” , but I hadn't a clue the proverb soundws that way , since English is not my mother language:D/ in one of the best G/K /Buffy the Vampire Slayer Crossover /NCIS/Buffy the Vampire Slayer fic / -I'm so glad that I'm not the only one, who thinks that way!

Tony & Ziva: Ziva4Tony: I think Tony and Ziva are great together. It would be nice to see how married agents work together on a show. Just do not make them always in peril. Ziva is such an interesting character and it would be fun seeing her and Tony dealing with the issues of her past in the Mossad. Would the Mossad let her leave? Season 5 is great so far. I think Gibbs already suspects rule 12 will be or has been broken by these 2. I Raise my glass with Tony and Ziva fans everywhere, here is to hoping these two are together soon by end of season 6 at least. chattomolly: I love Tiva but it kills and shatters Ziva's heart because of Jeanne you can see it. ncisgirl101: Of course this will happen, If it doesn't there will be THOUSANDS of disappointed NCIS fans... PLUS TIVA IS SEX! Ncis_fanatic: I think Tony and Ziva should be together because they work well together and they have a lot of chemistry! They should be together in either season 5 or season 6! Dunnozzo: I love Tony and Ziva, and what looks to be the obvious chemistry spawning between them - well, at least Ziva's feelings for Tony. I think Ziva and Tony's unresolved sexual tension has become so much a part of the show, however, that only at the very end of NCIS (although I'd hate to see it finish) would they get together. I'm thinking that the only other possibility - Ziva/Tony dying, or Ziva being recalled to Israel would be met with a far greater fan outcry - and the death of such a great pairing would most likely kill off a lot of the show. Here's to Tony and Ziva - eventually. xzivadavidx: I love the whole Tiva relationship its part of the whole NCIS concept, there is so much tension that is just waiting to be released, i think "under covers" was a great opportunity for them to relieve some of it. Here's to Tony and Ziva, where would we be without you x Sorgiña: I don't quite see it, it's also so terribly obvious and predictable, which takes all the fun out of it. NCISislove: "I don't quite see it, it's also so terribly obvious and predictable, which takes all the fun out of it." I don't want to repeat myself-read my first reply on Tone/Kate thread on Romances page.:) howdy25: it is so obvious!=) did u all see how jealous tony was in recoil? one of my favorite episodes of all time is under covers. another is boxed in. its only a matter of time... I will be waiting... Ziva.and.Abby.Rock: I'm not sure. I really love Ziva as a character hence my name but the tricks and fun they play on each other is just too much too lose it would be a great loss to cut out all that which I love! myangell02: I can't wait for it to happen...and it will..though I think for us to see it happen would mean we were in the final season of NCIS, and for that I can wait... Abbyroxmycombatboots: Hmmm... they used to be a close second to my favorite ship - McAbby, but I'm starting to not like them together as much anymore. Obviously there is something more than friendship or brother-sister relationship between them, but honestly I couldn't see them working out. And I do love the sexual tention and their little fights, and I'm afraid they'd lose that if they were together.

Tony & Ziva:

Ziva4Tony: I think Tony and Ziva are great together. It would be nice to see how married agents work together on a show. Just do not make them always in peril. Ziva is such an interesting character and it would be fun seeing her and Tony dealing with the issues of her past in the Mossad. Would the Mossad let her leave? Season 5 is great so far. I think Gibbs already suspects rule 12 will be or has been broken by these 2. I Raise my glass with Tony and Ziva fans everywhere, here is to hoping these two are together soon by end of season 6 at least.

chattomolly: I love Tiva but it kills and shatters Ziva's heart because of Jeanne you can see it.

ncisgirl101: Of course this will happen, If it doesn't there will be THOUSANDS of disappointed NCIS fans... PLUS TIVA IS SEX!

Ncis_fanatic: I think Tony and Ziva should be together because they work well together and they have a lot of chemistry! They should be together in either season 5 or season 6!

Dunnozzo: I love Tony and Ziva, and what looks to be the obvious chemistry spawning between them - well, at least Ziva's feelings for Tony. I think Ziva and Tony's unresolved sexual tension has become so much a part of the show, however, that only at the very end of NCIS (although I'd hate to see it finish) would they get together. I'm thinking that the only other possibility - Ziva/Tony dying, or Ziva being recalled to Israel would be met with a far greater fan outcry - and the death of such a great pairing would most likely kill off a lot of the show. Here's to Tony and Ziva - eventually.

xzivadavidx: I love the whole Tiva relationship its part of the whole NCIS concept, there is so much tension that is just waiting to be released, i think "under covers" was a great opportunity for them to relieve some of it. Here's to Tony and Ziva, where would we be without you x

Sorgiña: I don't quite see it, it's also so terribly obvious and predictable, which takes all the fun out of it.

NCISislove: "I don't quite see it, it's also so terribly obvious and predictable, which takes all the fun out of it."
I don't want to repeat myself-read my first reply on Tone/Kate thread on Romances page.:)

howdy25: it is so obvious!=) did u all see how jealous tony was in recoil? one of my favorite episodes of all time is under covers. another is boxed in. its only a matter of time... I will be waiting...

Ziva.and.Abby.Rock: I'm not sure. I really love Ziva as a character hence my name but the tricks and fun they play on each other is just too much too lose it would be a great loss to cut out all that which I love!

myangell02: I can't wait for it to happen...and it will..though I think for us to see it happen would mean we were in the final season of NCIS, and for that I can wait...

Abbyroxmycombatboots: Hmmm... they used to be a close second to my favorite ship - McAbby, but I'm starting to not like them together as much anymore. Obviously there is something more than friendship or brother-sister relationship between them, but honestly I couldn't see them working out. And I do love the sexual tention and their little fights, and I'm afraid they'd lose that if they were together.

Abby & McGee: Farmergeorge: at the start they seemed like a really great couple. in fact, they still do. but i think they have reached the stage of a comfortable friendship after what seemed a brief romance. Of course, they are such great characters together so thank goodness for the world of fanfiction!! where, even if the writers think their relationship is no longer likely to be a coupling, we can all still read and write about how wonderful they'd be...and be able to see more about their relationship than we ever did in the show :D Spprtourtroops09: I really would love to see Abby and McGee... especially after the episode with McGee's book where the computer geek and the forensic analyst(?) have a "thing". He obviously has feelings for her! Sorgiña: I think this is the one romance where everyone seems to agree, in that they make such a sweet couple, the kind that makes you want to believe in romance, and sugar and spice and all things nice kind of feeling. Ziva.and.Abby.Rock: This would obviously be a hell funny relationship because.....well it's Abby....and....McGee I would love to see this relationship take place though it would be brilliant! Abbyroxmycombatboots: What can I say? Abby and McGee are by far my favorite couple ever :D. I just love them together. They make such a cute couple and they definitely have chemistry. I love their hugs and the way the other gets jealous whenever the other likes someone else :)<3

Abby & McGee:
Farmergeorge: at the start they seemed like a really great couple. in fact, they still do. but i think they have reached the stage of a comfortable friendship after what seemed a brief romance. Of course, they are such great characters together so thank goodness for the world of fanfiction!! where, even if the writers think their relationship is no longer likely to be a coupling, we can all still read and write about how wonderful they'd be...and be able to see more about their relationship than we ever did in the show :D

Spprtourtroops09: I really would love to see Abby and McGee... especially after the episode with McGee's book where the computer geek and the forensic analyst(?) have a "thing". He obviously has feelings for her!

Sorgiña: I think this is the one romance where everyone seems to agree, in that they make such a sweet couple, the kind that makes you want to believe in romance, and sugar and spice and all things nice kind of feeling.

Ziva.and.Abby.Rock: This would obviously be a hell funny relationship because.....well it's Abby....and....McGee I would love to see this relationship take place though it would be brilliant!

Abbyroxmycombatboots: What can I say? Abby and McGee are by far my favorite couple ever :D. I just love them together. They make such a cute couple and they definitely have chemistry. I love their hugs and the way the other gets jealous whenever the other likes someone else :)<3

Gibbs & Jenny: x0julianna02: I love Jenny and Gibbs. I have loved them since the very beginning and when Jenny first came on the show I knew that they had history and will be together in the end. I love them & I love how the writers put so much sexual and romantic tension between them.. I think they are still in love but both are too stubborn to admit it. It was the exact way in JAG. NCIS is different from JAG but still similar. I love both shows but NCIS is more interesting and deeper. It keeps you wanting more at the end of each episode. Also, I really think people love to hate Jenny, but I think and hope she's here to stay. She can't leave because she is a main influence with Gibbs and the rest of his team. She causes a lot of tension and it is great! Hopefully there will much time for her to evolve and for audiences to see her as Jenny not just as Gibbs ex or 'the Director'. I am a pure Jibbs fan. However, I do like Hollis Mann and Gibbs together because she doesn't put up with his crap either..It is great. But there's some chemistry but not as much as Jenny and Gibbs have. Jenny knows all about his past because they were partners. She is always explaining why Gibbs is the way she is and such and she understands him. The whole Le Frog thing is beginning to add depth to Jenny's character, she's been hurt somewhere in her life similar to Gibbs, it's the attributes they have in common making them connected and a sense of understanding but also makes them emotionally withdrawn from each other and sometimes unable to communicate! I would like to see an episode where Jenny and Gibbs are in the field, maybe like the Boxed In episode, so the fact that she is the boss isn't such a barrier, allowing us to see how they used to work together as partners and maybe lead us into what they are made of as a potential couple.... They would have really cute kids and they would make great parents. I just love when they give episodes with little kids because Gibbs and Jenny can connect to them and get them to trust them when no one else can. It is amazing NCIS4LIFE5: I really think that Jibbs will be together by the end of season 5!! Ncis_Fanatic: I think that they have great chemistry and they know a lot about each other and know each other in more ways that other people don't so I don't know why it shouldn't work out. Sorgiña: the only thing is... you know, like 2nd time around wasn't so hot, possibility it could finish worse than the 1st time round, and of course you can't put the clock back. Just a thought. May96: It will have been 9 years since Gibbs and Jenny have been together by the end of season 5, that time has changed them individually. Yes it didn't work before but they are different now, plus they also have the experience of the first time to learn from. Sorgiña: This huge time lapse is also negative about them getting together again. I think they'd like it to work but .... May96: I'm just gonna have a mini ramble repeating what I've said before so they are all collected together! lol Gibbs has never done a boat with Jenny's name on (that we know of), and its my opinion he never has, when he build boats and burns them? or however he rids them it is usually when he is trying to let go.. I don't think he is quite ready to let go of hope on Jen yet... There is a lot of mistrust of other people in Jenny and Gibbs nature..... it is known that towards the end of Season 4 that Jen is very secretive, which she puts down to Gibbs teaching her his rules, she does not tell anyone anything if she doesn't have too hence her not talking about 'family' (mentioned in 'Bury your dead', I think) in all the time Gibbs and Jen were a couple, he actually knows nothing of her life before him and vice versa... they both have huge trust issues, highlighted from Jenny's side by... Gibbs: "Do you doubt me Jen?" Jen: "professionally..... never", and from Gibbs side the time he got arrested in Paris and she carried on walking down the street... it's why they hit a stand still in their relationship before andJenny's the only way to get to the next level in their relationship would be to trust each other fully, which would mean both of them divulging their past (Shannon, Kelly, LeG, Jasper Shepard... and all that jazz) neither of them could do it at the time and so Jenny went to her second best option immersing herself in work... I think since the end of season 3 we have been getting a breakdown of their pasts and they are slowly being revealed to each other... Jen now knows about Gibbs family and Gibbs knows about LeG... but if they are ever going to get anywhere they are going to have to open up to each other... As well when Jen later finds out about his family she snipes that he kept it from her all the while they were together, he asks would it have made a difference, Jen says she doesn't know because she was never given the chance ... it seems to me that Jen may have wanted more stability with Jethro rather than just sex while under cover, if she new of his family it would have gave her the indication that what he wanted or at least he did once want/had stability of wife, kids, family...because to her he was a twice divorcee who never left work or his boat.. i think she didn't see much options and he was/is never forth right with how he feels... any how I think she is now beginning to regret her decision of walking away and her lack of faith in him personally and that's what we are seeing now. Jen a lot more vulnerable than she appears ... and as for Gibbs non interest (which he does seem to have more of when she is first introduced) is that he wants her to fight for him, because after all she did dump him (not nice) ... Then there's just odd bits that make me a Jibbs believer like something that always struck me was in Hiatus when Jen goes to see Gibbs and she asks if the only thing he remembers about her is 'making love'... it seemed a very intimate way to put it, especially since Gibbs had memory loss and was particularly vulnerable it was like she was TELLING him that it was 'making love' . They just have a spark that will always keep them interesting! Sorgiña: Somehow don't think it's going to be that obvious or that straightforward, the idea is nice but don't see it quite coming to fruition or so my 6th sense says (don't have a gut....) May96: It will never be straightforward, it would be out of character.. Sorgiña: Just got this 'je ne se quois' feeling that all they the characters and us would like it to happen, it's just not going to go that way. Maybe they'll just be 'friends with privileges' so to speak, which is better than nothing after all May96: I think for the time being I would happily settle to see Gibbs and Jenny as 'friends with privileges' at least then we could see some contact between them, the spark they have when they are flirting! But 'friends with privileges' would not last forever and would be good to see if they would want to fight for a relationship or just stop when it came down to the crunch!

Gibbs & Jenny:
x0julianna02: I love Jenny and Gibbs. I have loved them since the very beginning and when Jenny first came on the show I knew that they had history and will be together in the end. I love them & I love how the writers put so much sexual and romantic tension between them.. I think they are still in love but both are too stubborn to admit it. It was the exact way in JAG. NCIS is different from JAG but still similar. I love both shows but NCIS is more interesting and deeper. It keeps you wanting more at the end of each episode. Also, I really think people love to hate Jenny, but I think and hope she's here to stay. She can't leave because she is a main influence with Gibbs and the rest of his team. She causes a lot of tension and it is great! Hopefully there will much time for her to evolve and for audiences to see her as Jenny not just as Gibbs ex or 'the Director'. I am a pure Jibbs fan.

However, I do like Hollis Mann and Gibbs together because she doesn't put up with his crap either..It is great. But there's some chemistry but not as much as Jenny and Gibbs have. Jenny knows all about his past because they were partners. She is always explaining why Gibbs is the way she is and such and she understands him. The whole Le Frog thing is beginning to add depth to Jenny's character, she's been hurt somewhere in her life similar to Gibbs, it's the attributes they have in common making them connected and a sense of understanding but also makes them emotionally withdrawn from each other and sometimes unable to communicate!

I would like to see an episode where Jenny and Gibbs are in the field, maybe like the Boxed In episode, so the fact that she is the boss isn't such a barrier, allowing us to see how they used to work together as partners and maybe lead us into what they are made of as a potential couple.... They would have really cute kids and they would make great parents. I just love when they give episodes with little kids because Gibbs and Jenny can connect to them and get them to trust them when no one else can. It is amazing

NCIS4LIFE5: I really think that Jibbs will be together by the end of season 5!!

Ncis_Fanatic: I think that they have great chemistry and they know a lot about each other and know each other in more ways that other people don't so I don't know why it shouldn't work out.

Sorgiña: the only thing is... you know, like 2nd time around wasn't so hot, possibility it could finish worse than the 1st time round, and of course you can't put the clock back. Just a thought.

May96: It will have been 9 years since Gibbs and Jenny have been together by the end of season 5, that time has changed them individually. Yes it didn't work before but they are different now, plus they also have the experience of the first time to learn from.

Sorgiña: This huge time lapse is also negative about them getting together again. I think they'd like it to work but ....

May96: I'm just gonna have a mini ramble repeating what I've said before so they are all collected together! lol
Gibbs has never done a boat with Jenny's name on (that we know of), and its my opinion he never has, when he build boats and burns them? or however he rids them it is usually when he is trying to let go.. I don't think he is quite ready to let go of hope on Jen yet...

There is a lot of mistrust of other people in Jenny and Gibbs nature..... it is known that towards the end of Season 4 that Jen is very secretive, which she puts down to Gibbs teaching her his rules, she does not tell anyone anything if she doesn't have too hence her not talking about 'family' (mentioned in 'Bury your dead', I think) in all the time Gibbs and Jen were a couple, he actually knows nothing of her life before him and vice versa... they both have huge trust issues, highlighted from Jenny's side by... Gibbs: "Do you doubt me Jen?" Jen: "professionally..... never", and from Gibbs side the time he got arrested in Paris and she carried on walking down the street... it's why they hit a stand still in their relationship before andJenny's the only way to get to the next level in their relationship would be to trust each other fully, which would mean both of them divulging their past (Shannon, Kelly, LeG, Jasper Shepard... and all that jazz) neither of them could do it at the time and so Jenny went to her second best option immersing herself in work...

I think since the end of season 3 we have been getting a breakdown of their pasts and they are slowly being revealed to each other... Jen now knows about Gibbs family and Gibbs knows about LeG... but if they are ever going to get anywhere they are going to have to open up to each other...

As well when Jen later finds out about his family she snipes that he kept it from her all the while they were together, he asks would it have made a difference, Jen says she doesn't know because she was never given the chance ... it seems to me that Jen may have wanted more stability with Jethro rather than just sex while under cover, if she new of his family it would have gave her the indication that what he wanted or at least he did once want/had stability of wife, kids, family...because to her he was a twice divorcee who never left work or his boat.. i think she didn't see much options and he was/is never forth right with how he feels... any how I think she is now beginning to regret her decision of walking away and her lack of faith in him personally and that's what we are seeing now. Jen a lot more vulnerable than she appears ... and as for Gibbs non interest (which he does seem to have more of when she is first introduced) is that he wants her to fight for him, because after all she did dump him (not nice) ... Romances! - NCIS

Then there's just odd bits that make me a Jibbs believer like something that always struck me was in Hiatus when Jen goes to see Gibbs and she asks if the only thing he remembers about her is 'making love'... it seemed a very intimate way to put it, especially since Gibbs had memory loss and was particularly vulnerable it was like she was TELLING him that it was 'making love' . They just have a spark that will always keep them interesting!

Sorgiña: Somehow don't think it's going to be that obvious or that straightforward, the idea is nice but don't see it quite coming to fruition or so my 6th sense says (don't have a gut....)

May96: It will never be straightforward, it would be out of character..

Sorgiña: Just got this 'je ne se quois' feeling that all they the characters and us would like it to happen, it's just not going to go that way. Maybe they'll just be 'friends with privileges' so to speak, which is better than nothing after all

May96: I think for the time being I would happily settle to see Gibbs and Jenny as 'friends with privileges' at least then we could see some contact between them, the spark they have when they are flirting! But 'friends with privileges' would not last forever and would be good to see if they would want to fight for a relationship or just stop when it came down to the crunch!

Tony & Kate Kitz1991: Well, where do I start?? Firstly I'm a huge Tate shipper my opinions on some situations are quite strong! In my opinion Tate evolved over time...they obviously had a great friendship which some people see as a more brother/sister relationship but there was always underlying "sexually charged tension" between them, as they constantly bickered over petty things and through each other suggestive looks, often engaging in flirtatious comments with each other. Tate will always live on!! mwsatdkt: I agree with Katie. Their relationship definitely started as just friends, but over the 2 season, you can see how much they mean to each other. They are both so similar to one another, yet neither would ever admit it. They liked teasing the other to get a reaction out of them, and their constant 'fights', caused by underlying sexual tension kept us entertained, but when it got to the serious stuff, they were there for each other, shown clearly in SWAK. Plus, the way Tony was "remembering" Kate in Kill Ari 1 proves that his feelings went deeper than what were on the surface. Kitz1991: Oh definitely Ash, the phone sex!! (which then led up to Tiva...but never mind). Also episodes such as Terminal leave where you have the shower scene- Kate is obviously peeved that Tony's in there but not the way she would be at say McGee if he was in there, really cute stuff! Black Water also shows Tony's more forward feelings, as he puts his hands between Kate's legs! And then of course there's an eye for an eye...with Tony's proposition to Kate about how to keep warm in the car (on a stake out)..Eskimo's style!! Here are just a few videos to emphasize..Tate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX-mrK1IwZg and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywjWSpjtXyY Sorgiña: There was a lot going for this relationship despite the constant bickering, I reckon they were a better match than Tony with Ziva. NCISislove:"...the phone sex!! (which then led up to Tiva...but never mind).""...they were a better match than Tony with Ziva." For me the idea that Tony/Kate relationship continue like Tony/Ziva relationship is quite wrong - I've noticed that when Kate was around, Tony was able to get away with bullying her a bit because she was always disturbed by his perversions. With Ziva, he's actually been thrown off his game and rather than flaunting his own vices, he seems much more interested in finding out all of hers. While Tony and Kate's relationship was one in which Tony would say things and Kate would get all shocked and baffled, Ziva is often the one to shock Tony. Her comments back to him seem to be more biting than Kate's ever were - she not only accepts his comments but she throws in comments that leave him speechless or shocked.That kind of relationship is far more equal for me. Kitz1991: Hmm, I see what you mean...but Kate wasn't the kind of girl to do that kind of thing. I mean the Catholic side to her stopped a lot of innuendo being thrown around. Maybe Tony is so shocked by Ziva's "come backs" because he never really had that sort of thing with his partner before...yet maybe it's cos Ziva's flirtations are more obvious. NCISislove:Just because she's Catholic doesn't mean she has to be close-minded or not independent, but you bring interesting topic-the change in Kate's character.Somehow in "Yankee White" she seems more open like a person. In S1 she can accept that Tony have so many relationship, and she only mocked him for that (I love how Sasha says the line in "Reveille" where she's naming all those girls, and then "the girls down on the farm"), Then in S2 she is really annoyed sometimes with that part of Tony's character -like in "Bikini Wax" , when Tony admitted that he took the tape at home:"K: What is wrong with you?!It's like you have some sort of a sickness. T: I had a hunch there might be something on it. K: Yeah, like ten half-naked women. "That never fit for me - to accept the character difference is typical for the grown people - I can't understand how in S1 she can accept that part of Tony's character, and in the 2nd half of S2 she can't do that. Kitz1991: I take this change in her as jealousy! In YW I agree, she does seem un-Kate but the circumstances were different then and she'd been having this affair with a fellow colleague and perhaps this made her more careful during the first season...because I definitely feel that in season 2 there is a lot more sexual tension between them, they playfully bicker a lot more. :) mwsatdkt: I don't know about you guys, but after 1 year with a guy who goes on and on about all these women, I would start getting really annoyed with him too :) And I think that Kate does leave him shocked. Remember when she was dating his frat brother, and at the end she goes "some things are more sacred" and walks off leaving Tony there shocked. NCISislove: Kitz1991, for me this have nothing to do with jealousy-and I'll explain myself. In S1& first half of S2 she was a grown woman and then she become/actually the writers made her character - and for me that' explains her behaviour/ more childish - that's not possible for the human development - after you grow up enough, you can't act like a child again. Even the Bible say that: "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things." -1 Corinthians, 13:11 Sorgiña: Sometimes people are prudish because they've been taught certain things are taboo even though they'd really like to cross that line, and who knows if she hadn't died, she might eventually flipped for Tony, even if it meant cursing herself night and day ;-)) NCISislove: My point is that she is more mature than Tony - if she was jealous, then she had to act more mature.To act that way is not typical for Kate from S1 and first half of S2 - she teased Tony, but in more mature way, no like at the end of the season,where she went into an adolescent pathetic rivalry with him - and that's only because the writers change her character and made her to act like a schoolgirl. Mwsatdkt, yes,she shocked Tony - only one or 2 times - if I count the points in their game, I would say that Tony is far away ahead of Kate.:) Sorgiña, I understand what you have in mind, but I'm not talking about these people, because Kate is not like them. I'm talking about the fact that life makes people grow and when they grow enough, they find the childish things too unattractive and no so interesting - to play with dolls makes the little girl happy - but for the young woman this will be boring not because "she's been taught certain things", but because she is grown enough and she doesn't find the previous pleasure in that - this is in force for every man, woman, situation or relationship. :)That's why I used that quotation from a Bible - not because I'm a religious person - these words express my feelings better than all of my words.:) Kitz1991: I think if you love someone you love them for who they are...even if they are less mature than yourself. You aren't compatible through your maturity (ha if that's a word) but through your personality, and in that way I think Tony and Kate are a great couple. NCISislove: Yes, but the maturity is part of the personality - we are the people who we are because we have that life experience which we have. I never said that Kate didn't love Tony, but he is 30 years old and behaves like a boy - I'm sure Kate has experience with that kind of the man population and because of that that kind of relationship is known for her -Tony can't be that intriguing for Kate both like a woman and profiler - she needs a man, not a boy, in her life. I ,personally , love Tony more in S4&5, where he is all grown up, but still has this childish thing in him.:) Kate and Tony just don't seem serious with each other and I have a hard time imagining them getting serious, which is necessary for one relationship .What drew their shippers to them, is their playful banter -THAT will change, if they become serious. "...I think Tony and Kate are a great couple. "- like a couple-yes, like a family...Tony needs to grow up for that.:) Sorry-I know the last line sound too dark, considering Twilight", but I'm in Twilight denial-it's pathetic, I know.:) mwsatdkt: Ahh, the voice of reason. I don't care about all this technical stuff. :) I like this ship, for mainly the reason you said, NCIS is love, because of their playful banter and they way they interact with each other. I'm not thinking about how it's going to change cause it never will. I'm in Twilight denial too, but sometimes you just gotta acknowledge it. Kitz1991: "I'm in Twilight denial-it's pathetic, I know :)" Aww I think all Kate/Tate fans are, I certainly am!! Yet they do kinda 'live on' cos of fanfics, videos...etc TATE FOREVER! :P

Tony & Kate
Kitz1991: Well, where do I start?? Firstly I'm a huge Tate shipper my opinions on some situations are quite strong!

In my opinion Tate evolved over time...they obviously had a great friendship which some people see as a more brother/sister relationship but there was always underlying "sexually charged tension" between them, as they constantly bickered over petty things and through each other suggestive looks, often engaging in flirtatious comments with each other. Tate will always live on!!

mwsatdkt: I agree with Katie. Their relationship definitely started as just friends, but over the 2 season, you can see how much they mean to each other. They are both so similar to one another, yet neither would ever admit it. They liked teasing the other to get a reaction out of them, and their constant 'fights', caused by underlying sexual tension kept us entertained, but when it got to the serious stuff, they were there for each other, shown clearly in SWAK.

Plus, the way Tony was "remembering" Kate in Kill Ari 1 proves that his feelings went deeper than what were on the surface.

Kitz1991: Oh definitely Ash, the phone sex!! (which then led up to Tiva...but never mind). Also episodes such as Terminal leave where you have the shower scene- Kate is obviously peeved that Tony's in there but not the way she would be at say McGee if he was in there, really cute stuff! Black Water also shows Tony's more forward feelings, as he puts his hands between Kate's legs! And then of course there's an eye for an eye...with Tony's proposition to Kate about how to keep warm in the car (on a stake out)..Eskimo's style!! Here are just a few videos to emphasize..Tate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX-mrK1IwZg and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywjWSpjtXyY

Sorgiña: There was a lot going for this relationship despite the constant bickering, I reckon they were a better match than Tony with Ziva.

NCISislove:"...the phone sex!! (which then led up to Tiva...but never mind).""...they were a better match than Tony with Ziva."

For me the idea that Tony/Kate relationship continue like Tony/Ziva relationship is quite wrong - I've noticed that when Kate was around, Tony was able to get away with bullying her a bit because she was always disturbed by his perversions. With Ziva, he's actually been thrown off his game and rather than flaunting his own vices, he seems much more interested in finding out all of hers. While Tony and Kate's relationship was one in which Tony would say things and Kate would get all shocked and baffled, Ziva is often the one to shock Tony. Her comments back to him seem to be more biting than Kate's ever were - she not only accepts his comments but she throws in comments that leave him speechless or shocked.That kind of relationship is far more equal for me.

Kitz1991: Hmm, I see what you mean...but Kate wasn't the kind of girl to do that kind of thing. I mean the Catholic side to her stopped a lot of innuendo being thrown around. Maybe Tony is so shocked by Ziva's "come backs" because he never really had that sort of thing with his partner before...yet maybe it's cos Ziva's flirtations are more obvious.

NCISislove:Just because she's Catholic doesn't mean she has to be close-minded or not independent, but you bring interesting topic-the change in Kate's character.Somehow in "Yankee White" she seems more open like a person. In S1 she can accept that Tony have so many relationship, and she only mocked him for that (I love how Sasha says the line in "Reveille" where she's naming all those girls, and then "the girls down on the farm"), Then in S2 she is really annoyed sometimes with that part of Tony's character -like in "Bikini Wax" , when Tony admitted that he took the tape at home:"K: What is wrong with you?!It's like you have some sort of a sickness. T: I had a hunch there might be something on it. K: Yeah, like ten half-naked women. "That never fit for me - to accept the character difference is typical for the grown people - I can't understand how in S1 she can accept that part of Tony's character, and in the 2nd half of S2 she can't do that.

Kitz1991: I take this change in her as jealousy! In YW I agree, she does seem un-Kate but the circumstances were different then and she'd been having this affair with a fellow colleague and perhaps this made her more careful during the first season...because I definitely feel that in season 2 there is a lot more sexual tension between them, they playfully bicker a lot more. :)

mwsatdkt: I don't know about you guys, but after 1 year with a guy who goes on and on about all these women, I would start getting really annoyed with him too :) And I think that Kate does leave him shocked. Remember when she was dating his frat brother, and at the end she goes "some things are more sacred" and walks off leaving Tony there shocked.

NCISislove: Kitz1991, for me this have nothing to do with jealousy-and I'll explain myself. In S1& first half of S2 she was a grown woman and then she become/actually the writers made her character - and for me that' explains her behaviour/ more childish - that's not possible for the human development - after you grow up enough, you can't act like a child again. Even the Bible say that: "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."
-1 Corinthians, 13:11

Sorgiña: Sometimes people are prudish because they've been taught certain things are taboo even though they'd really like to cross that line, and who knows if she hadn't died, she might eventually flipped for Tony, even if it meant cursing herself night and day ;-))

NCISislove: My point is that she is more mature than Tony - if she was jealous, then she had to act more mature.To act that way is not typical for Kate from S1 and first half of S2 - she teased Tony, but in more mature way, no like at the end of the season,where she went into an adolescent pathetic rivalry with him - and that's only because the writers change her character and made her to act like a schoolgirl.

Mwsatdkt, yes,she shocked Tony - only one or 2 times - if I count the points in their game, I would say that Tony is far away ahead of Kate.:)

Sorgiña, I understand what you have in mind, but I'm not talking about these people, because Kate is not like them. I'm talking about the fact that life makes people grow and when they grow enough, they find the childish things too unattractive and no so interesting - to play with dolls makes the little girl happy - but for the young woman this will be boring not because "she's been taught certain things", but because she is grown enough and she doesn't find the previous pleasure in that - this is in force for every man, woman, situation or relationship. :)That's why I used that quotation from a Bible - not because I'm a religious person - these words express my feelings better than all of my words.:)

Kitz1991: I think if you love someone you love them for who they are...even if they are less mature than yourself. You aren't compatible through your maturity (ha if that's a word) but through your personality, and in that way I think Tony and Kate are a great couple.

NCISislove: Yes, but the maturity is part of the personality - we are the people who we are because we have that life experience which we have. I never said that Kate didn't love Tony, but he is 30 years old and behaves like a boy - I'm sure Kate has experience with that kind of the man population and because of that that kind of relationship is known for her -Tony can't be that intriguing for Kate both like a woman and profiler - she needs a man, not a boy, in her life. I ,personally , love Tony more in S4&5, where he is all grown up, but still has this childish thing in him.:) Kate and Tony just don't seem serious with each other and I have a hard time imagining them getting serious, which is necessary for one relationship .What drew their shippers to them, is their playful banter -THAT will change, if they become serious.

"...I think Tony and Kate are a great couple. "- like a couple-yes, like a family...Tony needs to grow up for that.:) Sorry-I know the last line sound too dark, considering Twilight", but I'm in Twilight denial-it's pathetic, I know.:)

mwsatdkt: Ahh, the voice of reason. I don't care about all this technical stuff. :) I like this ship, for mainly the reason you said, NCIS is love, because of their playful banter and they way they interact with each other. I'm not thinking about how it's going to change cause it never will. I'm in Twilight denial too, but sometimes you just gotta acknowledge it.

Kitz1991: "I'm in Twilight denial-it's pathetic, I know :)" Aww I think all Kate/Tate fans are, I certainly am!! Yet they do kinda 'live on' cos of fanfics, videos...etc TATE FOREVER! :P

Ziva & McGee: Farmergeorge: okay...so for a while...I really loved the idea of Tony and Ziva hooking up: they have such awesome banter and such great chemistry together. But recently I have been converted to loving the idea of Ziva & McGee as a pairing...I don't know what it is but I think they would make a good couple. I still think the idea of Tony and Ziva is good, but I just prefer McGee for her right now :D :D Sorgiña: Poor Probie!! Ziva would have as a midmorning snack leaving him unable to do anything but stutter all the time, mind you it could be amusing Kitz1991: Haha definitely, but during the first part of season 3 there are a few hints to McGee & Ziva as a couple... in one episode McGee says something like: "Do you think she likes me?" and like is not meant in the friendly sort of term! Yet saying that I really don't see them as a good match for each other...just good friends. Sorgiña: don't think Probie could survive Ziva, although it might smarten him up a bit ncis&abbyrock!!!!!: Abby would be very jealous! Seriously though, I think the relationship is more little brother- big sister than anything. Abbyroxmycombatboots: Hmm Ziva and McGee don't really seem to have any chemistry or even really be attracted to each other really. And honestly, I don't think they are even that close of friends, in the second episode of season 6 they hardly had anything to talk about without Tony there.

Ziva & McGee:
Farmergeorge: okay...so for a while...I really loved the idea of Tony and Ziva hooking up: they have such awesome banter and such great chemistry together. But recently I have been converted to loving the idea of Ziva & McGee as a pairing...I don't know what it is but I think they would make a good couple. I still think the idea of Tony and Ziva is good, but I just prefer McGee for her right now :D :D

Sorgiña: Poor Probie!! Ziva would have as a midmorning snack leaving him unable to do anything but stutter all the time, mind you it could be amusing

Kitz1991: Haha definitely, but during the first part of season 3 there are a few hints to McGee & Ziva as a couple... in one episode McGee says something like: "Do you think she likes me?" and like is not meant in the friendly sort of term! Yet saying that I really don't see them as a good match for each other...just good friends.

Sorgiña: don't think Probie could survive Ziva, although it might smarten him up a bit

ncis&abbyrock!!!!!: Abby would be very jealous! Seriously though, I think the relationship is more little brother- big sister
than anything.

Abbyroxmycombatboots: Hmm Ziva and McGee don't really seem to have any chemistry or even really be attracted to each other really. And honestly, I don't think they are even that close of friends, in the second episode of season 6 they hardly had anything to talk about without Tony there.

Gibbs & Mann: Sorgiña: Never saw any chemistry between them - probably just sexual release, she was too desperate to have a 'permanent' man friend, and when she insinuated she's was looking for a long-term deal, poor Gibbs nearly choked to death. *Iheartgibbs:* I Agree... I think they were both too controlling for anything to actually work out between them... Gibbs could do way better... dani_g: I'll say the same thing I said on the Gibbs/Mann forum- I think that for Gibbs will be good to have "new love interest "out of NCIS. I like Col. Mann,and I think Gibbs and her are great together. Hollis is very different from Shannon and Stephanie which is why I think their relationship works. I don't think she was prying. I don't blame her for wanting to know more, but she also backed off when she noticed he didn't want to talk about Shannon or Kelly. Personally, I thought Hollis handled things well with Gibbs. She's not a replacement for his wife, neither look- nor personality-wise. Gibbs will never completely be able to deal with the loss of his first wife and daughter - it's not something you ever get over, I think - but Hollis can help him come to terms with it, so they both can find the happiness they deserve. From the first, I didn't think she was right for Gibbs. A casual fling, someone to pal around with, play baseball, yes, but not for a long-term relationship.With "Ex-File", I started to have a change of heart. She was more concerned, than jealous, about the Ex being involved. She was shocked to find out about his family. He told Mann, and he tells himself, that it's in the past, over and done, but it's not. It's only been a year since the coma, and he had to relive all those memories and emotions. I thought Hollis handled the situation well. I totally get that one doesn't have to share everything in a relationship, but the death of Gibbs' wife and daughter is a huge deal and explains so much about him and is the reason why Gibbs isn't moving forward, either.Gibbs wouldn't have left the tape in the cassette recorder if he didn't want Hollis to find it. They've probably listened to music while working on the boat on previous "less than nights in his basement" before. I really like Hollis because she gets Gibbs. She knows what makes him tick. Shannon probably was a perfect match for Gibbs before tragedy stroke, but the loss of his family has changed Gibbs so much I think someone like Hollis is a better fit for him than a comparatively "gentle soul". Sorgiña: While Gibbs might not want a 'flimsy' female who faints and twitters at the slightest mishap, Mann was too much of a he-female, who probably would be better off walking the other side of the street, and that the relationship with Gibbs may well have been a way to test her femaleness, so to speak, because she feels unhappy with the manly (pardon the pun) side of her character. May96: Gibbs never pursued her after their first night together, and was nowhere near as bothered by the fact she didn't ring him as she was that he didn't ring her. The only time he exhibits enthusiasm is when he is flirting with her and he does that with Jenny and odd women on cases all the time. I don't think he saw her as anything special... she may have been good for him but his heart didn't suddenly start beating faster when she entered the room either.. NCISislove:"Gibbs never pursued her after their first night together, and was nowhere near as bothered by the fact she didn't ring him as she was that he didn't ring her." It's natural if Gibbs is afraid to start a new relationship-we have to give him credit for that-every relationship he had ended badly.Every new relationship needs time to develop-of course his heart will not "start beating faster when she entered the room"- he is not a teen and they were together only one night - but just watch Skeletons - it was he who started the all :You could've called." conversation.:)

Gibbs & Mann:
Sorgiña: Never saw any chemistry between them - probably just sexual release, she was too desperate to have a 'permanent' man friend, and when she insinuated she's was looking for a long-term deal, poor Gibbs nearly choked to death.

Iheartgibbs: I Agree... I think they were both too controlling for anything to actually work out between them... Gibbs could do way better...

dani_g: I'll say the same thing I said on the Gibbs/Mann forum- I think that for Gibbs will be good to have "new love interest "out of NCIS. I like Col. Mann,and I think Gibbs and her are great together. Hollis is very different from Shannon and Stephanie which is why I think their relationship works. I don't think she was prying. I don't blame her for wanting to know more, but she also backed off when she noticed he didn't want to talk about Shannon or Kelly. Personally, I thought Hollis handled things well with Gibbs. She's not a replacement for his wife, neither look- nor personality-wise. Gibbs will never completely be able to deal with the loss of his first wife and daughter - it's not something you ever get over, I think - but Hollis can help him come to terms with it, so they both can find the happiness they deserve.

From the first, I didn't think she was right for Gibbs. A casual fling, someone to pal around with, play baseball, yes, but not for a long-term relationship.With "Ex-File", I started to have a change of heart. She was more concerned, than jealous, about the Ex being involved. She was shocked to find out about his family. He told Mann, and he tells himself, that it's in the past, over and done, but it's not. It's only been a year since the coma, and he had to relive all those memories and emotions. I thought Hollis handled the situation well. I totally get that one doesn't have to share everything in a relationship, but the death of Gibbs' wife and daughter is a huge deal and explains so much about him and is the reason why Gibbs isn't moving forward, either.Gibbs wouldn't have left the tape in the cassette recorder if he didn't want Hollis to find it. They've probably listened to music while working on the boat on previous "less than nights in his basement" before.

I really like Hollis because she gets Gibbs. She knows what makes him tick. Shannon probably was a perfect match for Gibbs before tragedy stroke, but the loss of his family has changed Gibbs so much I think someone like Hollis is a better fit for him than a comparatively "gentle soul".

Sorgiña: While Gibbs might not want a 'flimsy' female who faints and twitters at the slightest mishap, Mann was too much of a he-female, who probably would be better off walking the other side of the street, and that the relationship with Gibbs may well have been a way to test her femaleness, so to speak, because she feels unhappy with the manly (pardon the pun) side of her character.

May96: Gibbs never pursued her after their first night together, and was nowhere near as bothered by the fact she didn't ring him as she was that he didn't ring her. The only time he exhibits enthusiasm is when he is flirting with her and he does that with Jenny and odd women on cases all the time. I don't think he saw her as anything special... she may have been good for him but his heart didn't suddenly start beating faster when she entered the room either..

NCISislove:"Gibbs never pursued her after their first night together, and was nowhere near as bothered by the fact she didn't ring him as she was that he didn't ring her."

It's natural if Gibbs is afraid to start a new relationship-we have to give him credit for that-every relationship he had ended badly.Every new relationship needs time to develop-of course his heart will not "start beating faster when she entered the room"- he is not a teen and they were together only one night - but just watch Skeletons - it was he who started the all :You could've called." conversation.:)

Ziva & Roy: Farmergeorge: okay...so they really didn't know each other for that long but they had an instant connection. I thought "Dead Man Walking" was a really good episode for Ziva because it showed her emotional side...and the continued appearance of the Orange Beanie was good for showing that she wasn't over Roy yet...Abbyroxmycombatboots: Yeah, I agree. I love watching "Dead Man Walking" because of the chemistry between Ziva and Roy. If only he had lived... =/

Ziva & Roy:
Farmergeorge: okay...so they really didn't know each other for that long but they had an instant connection. I thought "Dead Man Walking" was a really good episode for Ziva because it showed her emotional side...and the continued appearance of the Orange Beanie was good for showing that she wasn't over Roy yet...Abbyroxmycombatboots: Yeah, I agree. I love watching "Dead Man Walking" because of the chemistry between Ziva and Roy. If only he had lived... =/

Gibbs & Shannon *Ncis4eva:* I know it's odd, but they were together for several years and had a child so I thought it was appropriate to put and we can talk about it, facts, what they would have been like if she didn't die or how now we might have prevented that and all. another one is this very interesting thing someone said - Shannon and Kelly were only their because Gibbs was their fighting for his country and if he hadn't been they would have never died.- interesting, that's not exact but close, tell me what you think.

Gibbs & Shannon

Ncis4eva: I know it's odd, but they were together for several years and had a child so I thought it was appropriate to put and we can talk about it, facts, what they would have been like if she didn't die or how now we might have prevented that and all. another one is this very interesting thing someone said - Shannon and Kelly were only their because Gibbs was their fighting for his country and if he hadn't been they would have never died.- interesting, that's not exact but close, tell me what you think.

Jenny & Ducky *Trevdale:* well there is still one match that could happen and that's Jenny & Ducky as at the end of season 3 they became close and showed so chemistry. Sorgiña: Think it's fairly plausible *atm4940:* There are issues -- slights, hurts, matters of personal trust, etc. -- between Jenny and Gibbs that remain unresolved. These aren't issues that can be neatly cleaned up or forgotten by either of them. Ducky and Jenny made a handsome couple -- remember when he accompanied her to a dinner (Season 3)? Jenny didn't seem uncomfortable at all with Ducky. It did seem to get a reaction from Gibbs, though, when he sees Ducky and Jenny leaving together. A relationship between Ducky and Jenny could add more fuel to the tension between Jenny and Gibbs. (Thank goodness, DiNozzo is available for head slaps.) As Gibbs himself said, Ducky is older, "he's not dead." *Sorgiña:* Plus the fact Ducky's old-fashioned chivalry and savoir-faire would probably appeal to Jenny

Jenny & Ducky
Trevdale: well there is still one match that could happen and that's Jenny & Ducky as at the end of season 3 they became close and showed so chemistry.

Sorgiña: Think it's fairly plausible

atm4940: There are issues -- slights, hurts, matters of personal trust, etc. -- between Jenny and Gibbs that remain unresolved. These aren't issues that can be neatly cleaned up or forgotten by either of them.

Ducky and Jenny made a handsome couple -- remember when he accompanied her to a dinner (Season 3)? Jenny didn't seem uncomfortable at all with Ducky. It did seem to get a reaction from Gibbs, though, when he sees Ducky and Jenny leaving together.

A relationship between Ducky and Jenny could add more fuel to the tension between Jenny and Gibbs. (Thank goodness, DiNozzo is available for head slaps.)

As Gibbs himself said, Ducky is older, "he's not dead."

Sorgiña: Plus the fact Ducky's old-fashioned chivalry and savoir-faire would probably appeal to Jenny

Ducky & Abby *MargyW:* Don't laugh. There is obviously close affection between the two, and Abs has stated on at least one occasion that she finds much older men attractive. Sorgiña: Well, I think Abby could develop quite a penchant for Ducky, think she'd handle his stories pretty well *MargyW:There is an obvious affection between them. Ducky often calls her "My dear" and it's clear that Abby likes that. Sorgiña:* And in one episode (can't remember which at 4.30 am!) Abby says she once dated one of her professors who was in his 60s, and seemed to have a happy recollection of the time.Abbyroxmycombatboots: Hehe, this one made me laugh :)

Ducky & Abby
MargyW: Don't laugh. There is obviously close affection between the two, and Abs has stated on at least one occasion that she finds much older men attractive.

Sorgiña: Well, I think Abby could develop quite a penchant for Ducky, think she'd handle his stories pretty well

MargyW:There is an obvious affection between them. Ducky often calls her "My dear" and it's clear that Abby likes that.

Sorgiña: And in one episode (can't remember which at 4.30 am!) Abby says she once dated one of her professors who was in his 60s, and seemed to have a happy recollection of the time.Abbyroxmycombatboots: Hehe, this one made me laugh :)

Gibbs & Abby: Could make for an interesting interlude - i.e. opposites attract, and maybe Gibbs isn't totally adverse to such 'wild' female behaviour *Ncis_Fanatic:* I don't really find any attraction there and their relationship is more like a father-daughter kind of thing. *Sorgiña:* Or maybe that's what they want us to think Ncis_Fanatic: Lol. Maybe. But I find it highly doubtful. *MargyW:* I can't see this happening. Probably because my relationship with my Dad was almost identical to that between Gibbs and Abby. Just doesn't work for me. Sorgiña: But then scriptwriters are wily devils when it comes to creating romances *MargyW:* Agreed, it's just that for me, it would feel vaguely incestuous.Abbyroxmycombatboots: I'm not sure if I'm doing this right, but I agree with MargyW. It seems incestuous. I have always seen Abby and Gibbs as father and daughter and I can't help but feel disgusted at the fact some fans would want them together. Sorry to any GAbby fans, but in my opinion they would make the worst couple.

Gibbs & Abby:
Could make for an interesting interlude - i.e. opposites attract, and maybe Gibbs isn't totally adverse to such 'wild' female behaviour

Ncis_Fanatic: I don't really find any attraction there and their relationship is more like a father-daughter kind of thing.

Sorgiña: Or maybe that's what they want us to think

Ncis_Fanatic: Lol. Maybe. But I find it highly doubtful.

MargyW: I can't see this happening. Probably because my relationship with my Dad was almost identical to that between Gibbs and Abby. Just doesn't work for me.

Sorgiña: But then scriptwriters are wily devils when it comes to creating romances

MargyW: Agreed, it's just that for me, it would feel vaguely incestuous.Abbyroxmycombatboots: I'm not sure if I'm doing this right, but I agree with MargyW. It seems incestuous. I have always seen Abby and Gibbs as father and daughter and I can't help but feel disgusted at the fact some fans would want them together. Sorry to any GAbby fans, but in my opinion they would make the worst couple.

DiNozzo & Abby: Who would make the better lover of the two? Plus I reckon Tony's more straitlaced than he would have us believe, and no doubt Abby could teach him the odd trick or two.

DiNozzo & Abby:
Who would make the better lover of the two? Plus I reckon Tony's more straitlaced than he would have us believe, and no doubt Abby could teach him the odd trick or two.

DiNozzo & Jenny: The modern touch: older woman + younger man, might bring more zest to her life than Gibbs *MargyW:* It could work. Tony has already started calling her Jenny, which implies a level of intimacy. Sorgiña: And perhaps he could break her heart as a kind of *** for tat for what she put him through with Jeanne, perhaps not intentionally but.....

DiNozzo & Jenny:
The modern touch: older woman + younger man, might bring more zest to her life than Gibbs

MargyW: It could work. Tony has already started calling her Jenny, which implies a level of intimacy.

Sorgiña: And perhaps he could break her heart as a kind of *** for tat for what she put him through with Jeanne, perhaps not intentionally but.....

Gibbs & Ziva: Reckon sparks could fly here given half a chance, though probably unlikely. Older man, younger woman, could work well for both of them. Ziva needs someone to trust, Jethro needs someone to love. Once they get to know each other in that sense, their bound could become unbreakable.

Gibbs & Ziva:
Reckon sparks could fly here given half a chance, though probably unlikely.

Older man, younger woman, could work well for both of them. Ziva needs someone to trust, Jethro needs someone to love. Once they get to know each other in that sense, their bound could become unbreakable.

Ducky & Ziva: Could be more likely than Ducky & Abby... Sorgiña: We know Ducky is quite enthralled by her and her capacity to kill people in different manners - a touch of Marquís de Sade here, perhaps

Ducky & Ziva:
Could be more likely than Ducky & Abby...

Sorgiña: We know Ducky is quite enthralled by her and her capacity to kill people in different manners - a touch of Marquís de Sade here, perhaps

Fornell & Jenny: Seeing as Fornell has a taste for Gibbs' leftovers, maybe we would set him with Jenny? *Ncis_Fanatic:* This could work but I don't think it could work as a serious relationship, more like a few dates. Sorgiña: But it might make Gibbs consider his relationship with Jen more, might be interesting to see interaction at least. *MargyW: To be honest, I reckon Jen would laugh in Tobias' face if he asked her out. May96:* I think Jenny's too hot for him, although i like the possibility of that if it did happen it could make Gibb's jealous! Sorgiña: Sorry to disagree MargyW but I don't think Jen would be above courting Tobias if she thought she could get Gibbs back, and then of course if you play with fire there's a risk you might get burnt, if you know what I mean.... *MargyW:* Good point, Sorgina. I hadn't stopped to consider that facet of Jenny's personality. But could you consider that sort of manipulative payback a romance? Sorgiña: That's what I meant about getting burnt;-)) In that it could start out as payback but......tables could be turned, let's face it stranger things have happened. Not saying that I'd like it to happen but it could make a very interesting game of chess or poker. May96: I think there's a possibility that Fornell would be intimidated by any romantic prospect with Jenny, she's too fiery but that's the way Gibbs likes her. Plus Fornell has already had one of Gibbs ex and got burned, or his bank balance did, he wouldn't want another! Sorgiña: Well, personally I don't think Fornell would be intimidated by Jenny, besides with her he wouldn't have to worry about his bank balance, since Jen has money. Also I think it would make an interesting dice role. OK I admit it! I like setting the cat among the pigeons :-)) Sorgiña: Could make for a few chuckles this set up, after all it'd be very much a 'beauty and the beast' set-up, since Fornell isn't exactly what one might classify as attractive and much less handsome, with a beauty like Jen on his arm he'd be strutting around like a proud peacock particularly in front of Gibbs.

Fornell & Jenny:
Seeing as Fornell has a taste for Gibbs' leftovers, maybe we would set him with Jenny?

Ncis_Fanatic: This could work but I don't think it could work as a serious relationship, more like a few dates.

Sorgiña: But it might make Gibbs consider his relationship with Jen more, might be interesting to see interaction at least.

MargyW: To be honest, I reckon Jen would laugh in Tobias' face if he asked her out.

May96: I think Jenny's too hot for him, although i like the possibility of that if it did happen it could make Gibb's jealous!

Sorgiña: Sorry to disagree MargyW but I don't think Jen would be above courting Tobias if she thought she could get Gibbs back, and then of course if you play with fire there's a risk you might get burnt, if you know what I mean....

MargyW: Good point, Sorgina. I hadn't stopped to consider that facet of Jenny's personality. But could you consider that sort of manipulative payback a romance?

Sorgiña: That's what I meant about getting burnt;-)) In that it could start out as payback but......tables could be turned, let's face it stranger things have happened. Not saying that I'd like it to happen but it could make a very interesting game of chess or poker.

May96: I think there's a possibility that Fornell would be intimidated by any romantic prospect with Jenny, she's too fiery but that's the way Gibbs likes her. Plus Fornell has already had one of Gibbs ex and got burned, or his bank balance did, he wouldn't want another!

Sorgiña: Well, personally I don't think Fornell would be intimidated by Jenny, besides with her he wouldn't have to worry about his bank balance, since Jen has money. Also I think it would make an interesting dice role. OK I admit it! I like setting the cat among the pigeons :-))

Sorgiña: Could make for a few chuckles this set up, after all it'd be very much a 'beauty and the beast' set-up, since Fornell isn't exactly what one might classify as attractive and much less handsome, with a beauty like Jen on his arm he'd be strutting around like a proud peacock particularly in front of Gibbs.

Ari/Kate He couldn't stop coming on to her in autopsy and he actually said sorry to her when he killed her. Kitz1991: Yeah....but he KILLED her! dani_g: For me the fact that Ari killed Kate was "out of the character" thing - DPB just needed a person who will kill Kate and because Ari was the most attractive bad guy,he was chosen to kill her. I really, REALLY wish that they had kept Ari as genuinely Mossad. There was such potential in those storylines and they blew it to pieces by making him a real bad guy in Twilight. It wasn't even necessary in order to bring Ziva on board. Have someone else kill Kate, even as a sniper, and let Gibbs think Ari did it. It could have been potentially even more frustrating - Ziva being divided between her brother and Gibbs, and Gibbs clearly upset and distrustful but being unable to do anything about it. I think there was an attraction between them in Bête Noire already and after Reveille, Kate knew that Ari was technically a 'good guy' that only acted the way he did for his country. Sure, she had that moral compass and it probably would have taken a lot of convincing arguments from Ari but I think, she could have seen past his bad actions. His patriotism is probably something she'd have admired too.The attraction was strong from both sides,but for Kate I'm not so sure after Reveille - in The Good Wives Club she said something about the Stockholm Syndrome:" It'll take her time, but she'll recover." From those words I've got the feeling that Kate was speaking from experience.

Ari/Kate
He couldn't stop coming on to her in autopsy and he actually said sorry to her when he killed her.
Kitz1991: Yeah....but he KILLED her!

dani_g: For me the fact that Ari killed Kate was "out of the character" thing - DPB just needed a person who will kill Kate and because Ari was the most attractive bad guy,he was chosen to kill her. I really, REALLY wish that they had kept Ari as genuinely Mossad. There was such potential in those storylines and they blew it to pieces by making him a real bad guy in Twilight. It wasn't even necessary in order to bring Ziva on board. Have someone else kill Kate, even as a sniper, and let Gibbs think Ari did it. It could have been potentially even more frustrating - Ziva being divided between her brother and Gibbs, and Gibbs clearly upset and distrustful but being unable to do anything about it.

I think there was an attraction between them in Bête Noire already and after Reveille, Kate knew that Ari was technically a 'good guy' that only acted the way he did for his country. Sure, she had that moral compass and it probably would have taken a lot of convincing arguments from Ari but I think, she could have seen past his bad actions. His patriotism is probably something she'd have admired too.The attraction was strong from both sides,but for Kate I'm not so sure after Reveille - in The Good Wives Club she said something about the Stockholm Syndrome:" It'll take her time, but she'll recover." From those words I've got the feeling that Kate was speaking from experience.

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