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TrinaXO |
160. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 6 2009, 9:34 PM EST
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Ha Ha don't worry i take no offense, but thank you dear rosecake and fishergirl. The reason i chose something like this as my theory is because, well, it would be something different for the show, they wouldn't have to make it too 'mushy' but focus on the personal struggle of the decision and being mature enough to make it instead. I believe having Daddy DiNozzo involved in a case would be too predictable, Ziva and her dad started from a case, Even Gibbs and his dad reconciled because of a case. I do like your idea calabashe of Daddy hiding from his latest ex-wife, it could work and could end up quite funny. But I'm leaning towards something slightly more emotional something he needs to work through to set Tony on his new path and introduce that personal crisis that Michael Weatherly said would be happening. My idea was just that, an idea and i love to hear anyone else's.... It makes the wait more fun!!! Do you find this valuable? |
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Calabashe |
161. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 6 2009, 9:47 PM EST
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"Ha Ha don't worry i take no offense, but thank you dear rosecake and fishergirl.Thank you Trina. Glad we understand and can have fun speculating with each other. rosecake is like a good sister to me who scolds me whenever I scratch or adjust myself in public. It's all in fun. I'm sure she is not chastising for having a different point of view. That would be practicing of what I am accused. 0 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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rosecake |
162. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 6 2009, 9:47 PM EST
"Ha Ha don't worry i take no offense, but thank you dear rosecake and fishergirl.You're welcome , but what I've said it wasn't just to defend your idea , but to ask respect for all members' ideas . And I repeat it : I like your idea and I agree with you . 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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donnalouisa |
163. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 6 2009, 10:21 PM EST
"You're welcome , but what I've said it wasn't just to defend your idea , but to ask respect for all members' ideas .I love these different ideas. My original idea was: Tony's dad blasts in as a witness/suspect in a seemingly straight-forward case. If he IS a suspect, Gibbs would love to get him in the box, but he waits to see if Tony wants to. Tony's big decision builds through the episode-- Is he free of Dad's manipulation or will he revert to little boy once more? Can he put aside his personal agenda to do the job? Can he break his Dad without breaking the relationship forever? And whoa -- what if his dad IS the bad guy? Would Tony put him away in prison? Will Dad ever see Tony as successful? As a grown-up? The writers will do a terrific job, as always, with surprises and angles we never would think of. I also like the idea of Dad needing something from Tony, and Tony's dilemma whether to help him? I don't like too mushy and smarmy sweet, like a perfect reconciliation, or some dragged on soap opera either. But as Tony matures, he may see his Dad from a more adult perspective, at least to understand what was going on in Dad's life when Tony was young. Not to ignore or minimize his own hurt or not to rationalize his dad's neglect. Just to see Dad as a man. Maybe Gibbs helps him see Dad as a man doing the best he can, but with his own weaknesses. How many wives did Dad have? How many did Gibbs have? Gack -- getting to serious and psycho-logical here. Sorry. back to the case.There has to be lots of humor in it too. Picture Tony looking up from his desk,to see the same shoes and classy clothes he has on, camera going up to the same tie, same smile... It's his Dad, for the first time in 10 (?)yrs , asking for Gibbs, not even realizing this is where Tony works. RJW cuold pull it off!!! lol Do you find this valuable? |
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Calabashe |
164. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 6 2009, 10:28 PM EST
"I love these different ideas. My original idea was: Tony's dad blasts in as a witness/suspect in a seemingly straight-forward case. If he IS a suspect, Gibbs would love to get him in the box, but he waits to see if Tony wants to. Tony's big decision builds through the episode-- Is he free of Dad's manipulation or will he revert to little boy once more? Can he put aside his personal agenda to do the job? Can he break his Dad without breaking the relationship forever? And whoa -- what if his dad IS the bad guy? Would Tony put him away in prison? Will Dad ever see Tony as successful? As a grown-up?Oh I do like all that donnalouisa - not too smaltzy either. Great visual on introducing Daddy too. Do you find this valuable? |
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SherlockBligh |
165. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 7 2009, 3:27 AM EST
I don't think it really matters who plays his father but I would like to see the father present Tony with the Astronaut suit he made out of the ski suit and inform him that he still holds a grudge about it. I would also like to see the reason behind the breakdown of the relationship being something like Tony's father stealing Tony's girlfriend and marrying her and is still married to the same girl which is the reason behind Tony's Peter Pan behaviour.
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donnalouisa |
166. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 7 2009, 4:41 PM EST
"I don't think it really matters who plays his father but I would like to see the father present Tony with the Astronaut suit he made out of the ski suit and inform him that he still holds a grudge about it. I would also like to see the reason behind the breakdown of the relationship being something like Tony's father stealing Tony's girlfriend and marrying her and is still married to the same girl which is the reason behind Tony's Peter Pan behaviour."Oh, that is great! I think his problems go back farther than that, but Dad stealing your first love would certainly sour things more. Another possiblity is that Tony is dating one woman, amaybe around his age, and her 20 year-old daughter won't tell her who she's dating, so Mom asks Tony to find out. Tony starts investigating, and finds out its his own DAD. OUCH. It's so much fun to get crazy about poor Tony. lol Do you find this valuable? |
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imatwin247 |
167. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 7 2009, 5:34 PM EST
im eager to see how tony reacts in his presence... what he will say, act, handle things.. etc. will he be nervous and uptight, or mouth off and sarcastic. i guess we'll see.
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Calabashe |
168. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 7 2009, 6:49 PM EST
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"Oh, that is great! I think his problems go back farther than that, but Dad stealing your first love would certainly sour things more. Another possiblity is that Tony is dating one woman, amaybe around his age, and her 20 year-old daughter won't tell her who she's dating, so Mom asks Tony to find out. Tony starts investigating, and finds out its his own DAD. OUCH. It's so much fun to get crazy about poor Tony. lol"Why does it have to be over a woman conflict? Tony was pretty young, college I think, when he was cut off. Maybe because of Tony wanting to go to Acadamy instead of joining Daddy in business. It'd make Daddy a pedo-perv to have stolen one of Tony's girlfriends. Tony's does one nighters, although a lot less since Jeanne, maybe a couple of "buddy" barmaids now. Maybe Daddy's having a mild mid-life and just wants to make sure his "boy" is alright. Too boring? The weeping moment could be telling Dad about Jeanne and Daddy understanding or the other way around Dad unwittingly talking about about how Jeanne Mom was and Tony understanding. Do you find this valuable? |
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Abby-fan-101 |
169. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 7 2009, 6:59 PM EST
I think that it would be awesome to see Tony and his father. The only thing is would you want tony's dad to be like tony. I mean most of the things that Tony knows probably comes from his dad. I would rather just here about his dad then see him because the way that Tony describes his dad it would be hard to find someone like that but that is why they are acting ( are that is what they tell us)
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imatwin247 |
170. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 8 2009, 9:03 AM EST
"I think that it would be awesome to see Tony and his father. The only thing is would you want tony's dad to be like tony. I mean most of the things that Tony knows probably comes from his dad. I would rather just here about his dad then see him because the way that Tony describes his dad it would be hard to find someone like that but that is why they are acting ( are that is what they tell us)"i think that his dad will be like him... but alil more harsher.. in certain ways.. like puttin tony down.. but he actually means it.. like u can see it affects tony. the team will c that.. n notice how much of a jerk he is. or.. his dad will be completely different. possibly putting on a front, to seem so nice. but who knwos.. he could be actualy nice and all... there are dif possibilities. excited.. but gotta wait for awhile..boO. Do you find this valuable? |
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Mulchahy |
171. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 8 2009, 10:47 AM EST
I have been looking forward and wondering what tony's dad was like about a month into watching NCIS. He talks about him sometimes, I have heard him talk about his mother maybe once, and we have no idea what his house looks like. I mean come on, we have already been in Vance's house. I never got that Tony and his father got along the best so this episode is sure to be entertaining. I think it will be interesting how they are going to come across his father. Like did he witness something, do something illegal, or whatever else they could possibley come up with. But wagner was a good choice, he is a top notch actor and I don't want it to be the 150th episode because that feels so far away and yet so close.
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SpecialAgent |
172. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 9 2009, 12:09 AM EST
I am so excited for this episode!There is so much speculation about Tony's father and I would love to finally see what he's really like. Was he abusive like allot of people think? Or did he just not pay attention to his son and belittle him? Or was he actually a decent guy who just made mistakes with his son? I can't wait to see for sure. Do you find this valuable? |
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Willow22 |
173. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 9 2009, 12:15 AM EST
My take on the guy is that he was clueless, not great with kids, too demanding in his expectations, not affectionate, and probably saw too much of himself in his son (that's always trouble). But not a bad guy altogether. Not abusive, just not wanting to deal with a kid.
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SpecialAgent |
174. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 9 2009, 1:34 AM EST
"Now for my far fetched theory on why daddy DiNozzo is back.I haven't given too much thought as to why he comes back, but I soooo agree that maybe Tony tells Gibbs about his childhood or something. I love their father/son relationship too and I really hope they show that a little in this episode. Do you find this valuable? |
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donnalouisa |
175. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 9 2009, 8:29 AM EST
"My take on the guy is that he was clueless, not great with kids, too demanding in his expectations, not affectionate, and probably saw too much of himself in his son (that's always trouble). But not a bad guy altogether. Not abusive, just not wanting to deal with a kid."Yeah, good point about not really abusive. He might have had Tony before he was ready to have kids, wanted to get ahead in his career, and didn't think much about fathering. Has he matured any in these last 30+ years? Or will Tony become more mature than Dad because of Gibbs, and the whole NCIS family? Tony is an only child, right? Makes a difference having brothers and sisters around. But Dad will have a charming style, and be like Tony in more ways than Tony is comfortable. I just hope he is as funny as Tony, and they can play off each other with quick one-liners! lol Do you find this valuable? |
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imatwin247 |
176. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 9 2009, 10:03 AM EST
"Yeah, good point about not really abusive. He might have had Tony before he was ready to have kids, wanted to get ahead in his career, and didn't think much about fathering. Has he matured any in these last 30+ years? Or will Tony become more mature than Dad because of Gibbs, and the whole NCIS family? Tony is an only child, right? Makes a difference having brothers and sisters around.i think that tony has changed alot because of gibbs' influence, which is good -- a father figure. i think him and his father will have similar humor.. in a sense that there will be one-liners and sarcasm to each other.. some serious and others jokingly. Do you find this valuable? |
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le_bibliothecaire |
177. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 9 2009, 12:56 PM EST
"Comc Relief is the only way it could be played, they are both "PLAY BOYS" at heart!!!!. "Sorry, but while I agree that it should not be all touchy feely, I also do not want to see it play out as all-out comic relief. They did great with the storyline and relationship between Gibbs and his father--a nice combination of humor and seriousness--and I would like to see the same in this situation. After all the hints dropped about Tonys' early life and his family and after waiting 7 seasons to find out more about his past, I do not want to see farcical. 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Calabashe |
178. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 9 2009, 2:01 PM EST
"Sorry, but while I agree that it should not be all touchy feely, I also do not want to see it play out as all-out comic relief. They did great with the storyline and relationship between Gibbs and his father--a nice combination of humor and seriousness--and I would like to see the same in this situation. After all the hints dropped about Tonys' early life and his family and after waiting 7 seasons to find out more about his past, I do not want to see farcical."Yeah Frenchy - Guy kind of touchy feely not the kind that requires breasts. Like the smile on Gibbs face the first time he saw the Charger or the understanding that Jackson and Gibbs' mom didn't have a perfect relation. Simple and few words, not an indepth psycho-analsys like we're gunna see with Ducky (?) and Ziva trapped in the elevator. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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le_bibliothecaire |
179. RE: Tony's Father
Nov 9 2009, 2:08 PM EST
"Definately not Laura Ashley. Maybe pseudo-Eathan Allen or Mission. Lots of wood and leather, a little chrome and glass. Very masculine but easy to maintain. Probably a berk-a-lounger too. Very few chochkies. Definately movie posters - uber classics like Goldfinger and the Godfather. Maybe Casablanca for the ladies.Yeah, I can see that. He has classic taste in clothing, so I can see that easily. It also wouldn't surprise me if most of his "furnishings" were TVs and DVD players and DVDs and their related furniture and paraphernalia. Do you find this valuable? |